Jamie Thingelstad

2012-11-08: A conversation with Eric Goplin (Director of Minnesota Kubb and Team Captain for Tad Kubbler) about the 2013 Loppet Kubb Tournament (register now).

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Let’s get Goblin He’s there here Eric how are you doing?

I’m doing all right.

Hey, Eric.

I I scored the Dallas finals today.

I saw that brutal That was that was so painful You call that Kubb Seriously, seriously, I don’t know there was a Kubb tournament going on and then we just I liked it.

I like at some point through midway through the game.

Everybody basically says Well, we stopped throwing eight meters.

Yeah, we just decided we don’t do that anymore We’re like we’re sort of like the opposite of vampires like we just don’t play after dark we can’t Yeah, I don’t it was just nasty That if you look I think what is it Cole and or no Anders and Sean open up with eight meters Consecutively at first two throws and then that’s it But it wasn’t just you guys it was Six back to yeah old streak though The overall throw stats for that were very we’re very much in line with like a recreational game most tournament games were to get the end of the bracket are Like a 60 to 65 percent throw rate according to the data that we have so far and that was what 30 it was like 35 It was about what you’d have at a friendly yeesh Well, I think that’s kind of what it’s sort of a nightmare for an organizer now luckily with Dallas I mean it was cold and a lot of people had gone home It wasn’t like the national finals where you know, you had 200 people packed around the pitch But it was also like it was also six person.

So those are the first six person.

Yeah aside from some games In Sweden, those are some of the first six person games.

We scored it Maybe that’s more in line with the stats for a six person game.

I Maybe if that hopefully if that makes us the bails out a little bit No, you know, I don’t know that was definitely wasn’t indicative of some of the play I’d seen throughout the day though you know, I’d seen teams really take it at other teams pretty hard and I Don’t know what the deal was once you get over the lights now, I mean the conditions are a little bit different But I mean both teams were playing on it.

So that’s not really an excuse, you know, so Maybe I’m not maybe on a more positive note.

I also scored some of the Loppet games Okay, and And you know, I don’t remember snow At this year’s Loppet yet.

There was snow.

Yes, if that was scoring.

Yep the final four got moved over to the finish line for All the races.

I don’t know if you saw it would come depending on which way you guys came into the tournament that day Some teams had kind of taken the shortcut through the parking lot the other teams that had gotten shuttled in or turn Into the park or gotten lost for about a half hour Those teams if you came in through the chalet you walked right past this big sort of finish line You see the kind of you know structure there.

So we moved over there for the the semifinals in the finals Okay And which kind of created a cool thing they brought in these lanterns kind of like these Jumbo kind of Coleman lanterns.

I Missed by six with one.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah, and one was broken.

So I just walked around with it.

It made me look cool No, yeah that and it was cool to be with on the snow, I mean the light bounced off of it So, I mean there’s plenty in the cameras could kind of pick up a lot of the action even with just those five lights It’s definitely a cool touch I’m looking forward to that again this year out on the lake Absolutely, and I I didn’t see a whole I mean it’s been months and I’m sure we’ve all gotten a whole lot Better at in casting, but I didn’t see I saw a little bit of sliding This is the games the games between the Kubb snappers and Sweden sons Mm-hmm a little bit of sliding on the on the in cast and on the coops getting thrown in but yeah It looks like they were the snow actually is a lot stickier Than I expected.

Yeah, it certainly was that day there too because that was part of that was artificial snow And it had been packed down quite a bit And then once it had been walked on a little bit it was packed down So yeah, I mean you really could you could get a pretty good drill I’d say even maybe better than you could on the grass that day.

I mean obviously so unusually warm that day When we were playing out on the you know, the the round Robin in the first Knockout games those were all on grass.

But I mean it was kind of a combination of frozen grass mud It was pretty brutal terrain.

I know I talked to Josh feathers and he was Certainly having trouble with his drill, too But then yeah, once you get on the snow, I mean, I think even a little bit they were kind of little Holes starting to develop to where you could just kind of chuck your cube in there and it would kind of land in there You know, I’ve seen Josh brothers goes out before each game and he makes a little hole In the pitch I’ve seen him You know, he does it but you know, I have seen him - have you ever seen him do this He’ll be down on his hands and knees and he’s in there and he he he fluffs it He fluffs the grass right in that hole right in the basket Okay to flush the grass and he gets it out of the way and gets the grass all nice and perky and then why not?

I’m in the master.

He’s got to get his tools, right?

I need a beer I don’t know if other people have a beer.

Do you have a beer Gary?

Yeah, of course I had poured the beer before I even got the mic set.

We are podcasting after all I’m gonna grab my beer and I’ll be right back.

Well, hey, this is what this is open loop Hey Gary, you know what?

This is number six.

This is number six.

Yep Lucky number six.

Oh wait, it’s actually number seven because we started at zero remember As we’re zero.

We’re we’re kind of technical like that And this is a really special open loop And not not just because I’m drinking a fruity beer Which I am Rudy like like a Sam Adams cherry wheat.

No like in New Glarus the serendipity the Strawberry rhubarb cherry not strawberries as cranberries cranberries apples and cherries because the cherry crop in Wisconsin Didn’t make it too dry no cherries, so New Glarus bought every cherry in Wisconsin and then they added cranberries and they made this this beer instead It’s quite good.

You know, I’m a fan of that of their new Belgian red And I’m fine saying that I’m fine with that.

I you know, you think what you will but I like it.

I Know that a lot of people would say no fruit in their beer, but I have no problem with it Especially in the fall.

What are you drinking?

I’m drinking my my my buckwheat honey saison Now which is which is really not so much a saison.

I was gonna say isn’t a saison really a summer beer Yeah, yeah fall harvest.

I mean you gotta you gotta give your your farm your harvest work or something to drink So you give them a saison?

Huh?

Are you liking it?

It’s a little too sweet for style.

I blame the honey.

I bet it’s not as sweet as my serendipity It’s got a much sweeter finish.

Really?

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah Yeah, the tartness of that serendipity really really stuck with me and this has a much more balanced almost sweet finish Yeah, the serendipity when you drink it amazing Yeah Eric are you enjoying anything?

I’m enjoying listening to you guys because I can’t I You’re dry had my I had my for wisdom teeth taken out on a Friday So I’m uh I’m enjoying this little micro brew called Pfizer that buys me with This is the perfect time to have you on a podcast, yeah, right exactly So today so today we have Eric Copland with us which is kind of this it’s a different thing I don’t know if we do this much Eric’s joining us and Eric is the guy who puts together Minnesota cube and organizes the Loppet tournament Which was the very first tournament that the Kubb Chuck’s ever won - and was awesome and we’ll be back again this year First you guys are the first team to register.

That’s right before it open.

That’s right.

So we’re hacking it all We got plans Eric we got plans to move up the bracket this year so we got a start early I’m excited about that.

I’m excited to see where you guys go this year.

The brackets all just based on when you register, right?

Right This year the Loppet is this is the third year, right?

This is the second year.

We’re officially part of the Lopet This is our third Minnesota cubes third winter tournament I guess you could technically our fourth, but it’s really our third like big tournament that we’ve actually Had teams come in from out of state and taken pre-registration We’ve doubled every year so 1632 and then this year we’re shooting for the moon here over 64.

I don’t know if that’s No, we’re gonna fill all 64 slots.

I I hope so.

You guys are definitely help We’re gonna if I have to sign up every cousin I know Yes, it’s the second year is actually the partnership with the Lopet and as we were talking a little bit about before it last year Due to weather we were taken to Theodore Worth Park, which was a fun place to do it.

But This year we’re the plan is to be back on a lake on Lake Calhoun Do it just west of tinfish restaurant there, which is kind of cool It’s where the ski race will make its turn up on to Lake Street, which will be flooded with snow Which is very unique.

Dude, that’s gonna be awesome.

I mean it so the the pitches will be right in front of tinfish Yeah, yep, just off.

There’s a kind of a big kind of natural patio there and that’s where surly will have their big Beer heaven there.

So like that’s in the summer.

That’s where all the sailboats are, right?

Yeah.

Yep Yep, 32 pitches set up.

Yeah.

Yep.

Just right off a tinfish, which would be kind of cool I think the plan is to have a This sort of championship pitch set up all day right off a tinfish.

That’s where I’ll be playing Eric.

That’s right right there That’s right, that’s where you guys we playing 730 that exactly how many teams are signed up so far right now we’re at 10 teams, which Just got started exciting considering.

It’s this early Yeah, I mean last year I don’t think we had more than five seen team signed up until you know sometime into December So where those state like all Minnesota or eight from Minnesota and two from Wisconsin We know Iowans.

Yes.

No, they haven’t thrown their hats into the ring, but I’m eagerly anticipating their registration A better tournament with all those teams coming, you know from Wisconsin and so first is it Lopet or Lopet?

How do you say it?

It is Lopet.

So yeah So what if there’s a huge blizzard?

Yeah.

Well, first of all, how cool would the pictures look?

It would be awesome there are two two Answers that I give people and I tried to put together a little FAQ for people that are thinking about this tournament and like well One big question is well, what if it’s really really cold or what if there’s a huge storm?

We’re gonna have a right out on a lake There’ll be a bunch of fire pits that people can sort of you know If nothing else just run to between tosses if I have but you know It can kind of hang out in between games and ice in their next team Yeah right out on the ice love this big kind of I don’t know if you guys have ever Seen like the luminary Lopet that they do.

Yeah They can have these big fire pits that you think like whoa, how does that work on the lake?

But they’re just up off the lake and and you know, they’re it works really well and then Obviously proximity to like the surly tent which keeps a lot of people warm and you know So like hot chocolate and coffee and all that stuff will be right there And then our proximity just to uptown So obviously where we were last year is a little bit tougher because I mean the closest permanent structure was probably the chalet which was You know quite a ways away.

You couldn’t just run there between matches, but here so we’re really close to uptown You’re close to tinfish places that you can run into to get warm And the other thing too is the way that we put the tournament together Dresses giving people an opportunity to go get warm If it’s if it’s cold and if it’s snowing like a lot of tournaments, you know You just play and if your next let’s say you win and you’re you know, the next game over they That next team wins, you know, you just play you say, okay, you guys ready?

We’ll play one thing that I really stress is that games don’t start early for the Lopet tournament So if you have a game at let’s say 130 just throw that out there You know, I know the Kubb trucks like their grinders.

Yeah, we like we play for two three hours each match Roll in about 15 minutes, right you win two games.

Yeah now you heard of her, you know Okay, my next game is at 230 so you can run somewhere grab, you know, get your toes so you can feel them again at least Grab your surly and come back at 230 and no you haven’t missed your match or no one’s looking for you To play your next match.

You just know where it is and when it is so that’s smart things did really kind of make it So people okay.

Yeah, even if it is really cold, we’re gonna still make this tournament happen and we’re still like looking out for you Yeah, that’s smart And so have you figured out how you’re gonna put the pins in the in the ice in the way?

Yeah, gonna just drill right into the lake, you know, just slightly smaller than the pin and just pound that sucker in I’ll use use taller pins this year.

There won’t be just the standard small ones and then I mean They’ll be a little bit more permanent.

I mean That’s gonna have Derek all up in arms He’s so anti pin anti pin and I am voting no on on center pins and pins overall Okay, but I don’t have a good solution.

I’ve got the boys in the lab working on it You don’t like just the idea of a center center pin.

No, no, no all the pins Are largely because it’s really difficult to set a Kubb up on a pin Yes, right.

And so I got the boys in the lab working on that.

Okay.

Yeah, I think there’s some laser Laser we tried the laser thing.

I got the lasers.

They’re right here in my cabinet and they don’t here’s the problem I think this could be fun if we played a complete night tournament with glow-in-the-dark Batons and cubes we could illuminate the pitch with lasers and it would work and they would be like just permanently there red lasers but if it’s during the day it the So I got him and during the day you can’t see the light and then I went on this Laser form on the internet and I asked I described what I wanted to do and the guys there are like, yeah You would need a laser so strong that people would have to be wearing protective Glasses and it would need like fans like you’d have to have like this fan cooling the laser you know be like in real genius like dry ice everywhere and Really would just sort of suck the fun right out of it I’ve got an idea.

You said it’ll work at night though.

Yeah, we’ll work at night for a night tournament There are I believe there are in this area 24 hour mountain bike races Leverage Coupe tournament during the night hours Coincided with the 24-hour mountain bike race.

No, no, no, no 24 hours a coupe 24 hours a coupe The one with the most wins after 24 hours.

It’s just like the 25 of Lamont’s Tournament directors are crying.

I Think the nightcube thing is is is an interesting idea I mean, I definitely Cole and I when we first started playing would play until 4 in the morning There’s that one lamp down in painter park, right?

Yeah, and we would just yep use that one until the Sun came up until the lamp would go off Seriously.

Yeah.

Well when we first started playing, you know, you know, it was a little bit easier.

Is that safe to be in painter park?

You have but I’ve got a stick and I can throw it Yeah Exactly Aaron Aaron Ellinger, he said that he painted his batons with the glow-in-the-dark paint and Because he plays, you know, Wisconsin style.

They just get up at like 3 in the morning or something crazy.

They play in the dark But yeah, because I’m better Yeah, and he said he painted the batons glow-in-the-dark and it didn’t really help like he lights the pitch up But he said that when the batons would go flying it made it really easy to go find them so, right Yeah, definitely could be done.

I’m adding Wisconsin style to the glossary right now.

Okay, great That means what is it?

So what’s the definition of Wisconsin style playing in the morning playing before playing before sunrise?

For other Kubb teams are awake.

Yeah How did you decide to organize a tournament yeah, I think First of all, there was kind of this natural gap between I mean cube obviously was starting to take off I mean still is kind of in a pretty big growth stage right now in the Midwest and there was a big gap between Dallas and Rockford or whatever that first tournament is and we were living I was living a house with Jake Freeburg And Cole’s there on the time and honorary Kubb Chuck Jake we that’s right.

That’s right.

We’re trying to get we were just like Decided that we weren’t gonna really stop playing just because it was winter and we had that hadn’t really occurred to us that we could Do that and we just did which is fantastic because I don’t know if you know this Eric but it was the promise of proper winter Kubb that Compelled me through my first few months of Kubb Okay, because I I could imagine how awesome this game is in the snow And I have yet to actually play it in the snow so I kind of still yeah We’re all right because we had all right.

Well last year we played on grass at the lopid and and it was really kind of a weak winter Well, the joke we kind of have at Minnesota cube is that like hey Did you know you could even play this game in the summer - like?

You can even play you play this game on grass if you want to if you’re really dedicated to the you know You know what?

I’ve heard out.

I’ve heard of people playing it on the beach I’ve actually never done beach cube.

That’s one.

I played it like a blizzard.

I played through hail I’ve never played on the beach though.

I that’s actually an objective of mine to never play it on a beach I kind of really work the accuracy I just don’t like you know the - I don’t like the bikinis.

Yeah Distracting well, I usually wear a pretty distracting one when I play on the beach, so it’s tough for my opponents That In the Des Moines shuffle, which is very distracting yes while wearing a bikini it’s very difficult for their team to focus We kind of wanted to just play another tournament So I kind of threw this thing together and I really didn’t know what to expect And basically, you know to email to register you needed an email address You need to be able to find me on the worldwide web and send me an email and you were in this tournament And we ended up getting to 16 teams and a couple teams came from well Actually three or four teams came with from Wisconsin a couple teams came down from Northern Minnesota to play and now that one was in painter Park, right?

That was actually at Linden Hills Park and the plan was to do it on on Lake of the Isles that year, but That was the snowmageddon year two years ago where the winter just nasty, but if you remember there was one Week or two in February where it got really really warm and Minneapolis pulled all their skating rinks off the lakes That’s right.

We couldn’t do it despite this nasty winter.

We still couldn’t do it on Lake the Isles So we did at Linden Hills Park, which was ended up being a pretty cool spot for it We had some lights there towards the end that were on that worked out Well as the tournament went on and Eric Anderson and Paul Mullen won that as Sweden sons over team McKee, which is Aaron who plays on Wolfpack now And his dad Yes, yep, that’s you saw the bracket from that first tournament I Do Eric Anderson has it I believe we got a part of the trophy Oh, we you know, the trophy was like here is some Yeah Because I want to I’m trying to collect all the brackets this is gonna be one of my winter projects on planet Coob She is I want to I want to Historically get all of the brackets that are out there put into the wiki for you know archived events for those Just so that they’re there and you know won’t be lost.

So yeah, that’s great Cuz I think I mean if you look back on even like the national tournament I was curious about a bracket like last year two years ago, and I’m not sure if there’s really Well, they they were yes, but they’re like Hindu in PDFs I mean and the world’s the VM actually has a PDF that has Its brackets as well as Ron Robin results going back.

I think a decade Yeah, and so I’m gonna combine that with Because you know, we’ve done a ton of stuff on this planet Coob Game system and scoring games and the stuff that Gary was talking about earlier, but and but that’s a pretty heavy way to put a win-loss in But you can also just put a bracket in and the wiki will actually calculate win losses for teams based on where they show up in brackets, so you know that way we can get more data about the win-loss record of various teams so the big important thing for now is registration because at the end of the month registration will go to $40 the team so I kind of worked hard to keep that at 40 at least for a while So teams that have played and can come back.

There’s no price increase So if you know you’re gonna play sign up, you’re gonna play sign up and a lot of people Does that event registration that the lope it handles?

Asked for a lot of info But really all I need is information for the captain if you want to make up information for the second and third person That’s fine So if people want to sign up, but they don’t you know I’ve had people email me and say do I need all this info?

For my teammate no not really.

I just need to know kind of your team name Your captain’s info and and you’re good to go.

It’s kind of weird when Gary wanted to know my social security number Well I was joking with Josh Feathers.

I mean when he wins we got to know where to send that car You know what I mean exactly fine and the taxes.

I mean right yeah, that’s a nightmare So you get all that handled for you?

I What do you think’s gonna happen so if we play so assuming the weather’s good and we’re on Lake Cajun It’s gonna kind of neutralize the drilling isn’t it?

the walk it back to the drilling the what like a thing is that we have the Tie break scenario isn’t like when you come report your games or your matches at the Lope it tournament You don’t report the game one.

So that’s not a tiebreaker.

So for example, I wouldn’t say Kuchuk’s beat Kubb snipers two games to one you just say we won the match And so if you end up with a group that is say One team is three, you know, and the rest of the teams are one and two in matches Yeah, we wouldn’t go to the game tie break.

We were gonna have this throw off which is gonna be pretty exciting Tell me more.

So so at one o’clock after the round Robbins done right and this didn’t happen last year I couldn’t believe it eight groups and every group finished Three, you know two and one one and two and oh and three I just couldn’t believe it But so instead of and so if there’s that tie break Between let’s say, you know three teams that were all one and two all three teams will get up just like it kind of happened in Dallas Everybody on the team will throw you get six throws just like you would a normal turn at eight meters and whoever the two Whichever team knocks down the most we’ll get to move on.

So we gather everybody around It’ll happen at one o’clock and it’ll determine for some teams if they’re going to the Championship bracket if they’re going to the consolation bracket.

Oh brilliant We got into one this year with Sweden sons in the semifinal and the year before there was one in the round Robin where?

What is the team rhymes with tube a woman on that team hit she’s in this throw off We’re all gathered around and she hits one and it goes sideways and hits into another one It was just like the you know, just this super exciting thing and I was like, I’m sold on this throw off Oh, there’s that which kind of is unique and then getting back to your question about drilling which kind of makes it unique Is that I mean it’s gonna be tough to know the conditions especially yeah on the lake We’re gonna try to pack the snow down a little bit.

I’m definitely not gonna have it completely swept off So you’re not gonna be playing on like a hockey rink the drilling and could be completely up in the air or you know Depending on the snow, maybe it’s more of that kind of wet packed snow and then maybe drilling is easier than normal I think it’ll all just kind of depend on conditions leading right up to to the weekend We so we had a Cuban coffee Was that just like it always a weekend before last The the ground was like a wet sponge And it made drilling so fun because the but the coops just just went And they just sat there even I could do it it was kind of like a wet Wet foamy mattress kind of thing where it just was kind of like yeah, it just kind of went in and well It’s cuz the the top the grass actually was frozen because I got there before the Sun came up and it set up to pitches And the grass was frozen and when Garrick showed up There was just like the Sun was starting to come off and then it started but it was still crunchy when you showed off Garrett, right?

Yeah.

Yeah, and then as a day went on it got kind of wet Yeah, mushy When weather cooperates not if when it when it cooperates Yeah I think you’ll see a lot of sliding and a lot of just kind of new people just playing around with it as it As it goes, I mean even last year early at any tournament, you’ll see that the conditions change throughout the day, right?

There are things dry out in the summer months.

But yeah, who knows what will happen?

Not halfway through the day.

No Jake free burger posted on a spinach.

Ooh about making ice kings Yes, is that still in the thoughts or yes it is Well, the goal here kind of is to have this championship pitch set up all day right in front of tinfish right off a tinfish So there’s kind of that balcony I was talking about and if people get over there Have been there once they get there will kind of be able to understand how it works It sort of makes for this kind of really nice natural overlook onto the lake which will work perfect for the tournament It will have this championship pitch set up there I’m thinking it’ll be a painted set painted like maybe the Minnesota Coupe colors low pit blue or something like that and then the goal is to have a nice big ice king in the middle with Some can’t like a candle in it.

So it’ll look like one of the luminaries from the luminary low pit Okay, cool it’ll kind of blend in and I Think it’d be fun to keep throughout the match But I think by the time you get to the finals people are gonna want an actual regulation king in there and not So it’ll just be for decoration I think so throughout the day and that night and I think when somebody gets down to actually winning we can maybe Substitute it in there.

We all talk to the teams that are in the final I mean, I think it’d be really fun.

Honestly, if I was in the final to smash an ice king to win the thing, but Minnesota coupe calm is the way to go head over there sign up I’m trying to think is any big other talking points.

I don’t know.

It’s just fun We’re gonna throw wood at wood, you know out on the lake and if you want to convince your friends, you know You just say we’re gonna go throw wooden blocks at other wooden blocks in the freezing cold and they’ll be like, yeah Of course, I want to do that I have an idea for a tournament, but I think there should be a tournament where you have to come you have to bring your own coupe set Okay, and you play and when you lose the match You have to go over and throw your set into the fire and burn you burn your cubes.

Yeah.

Yeah, it’s like yeah You burn an effigy.

Yeah, right.

That’d be very cool I like the Dallas could potentially do that like it’s sort of the last tournament of the year and you kind of like get rid of all you King bad King misses that you’ve had in the past Burn that away.

Eric.

You’re also as well as Minnesota cube and all that.

You’re also the captain for Tad Kubler Yeah, I don’t know from the captain but I’m I play on team team Captain who is come on the de facto captain.

I’m the captain in that Cole I can’t leave it to cold to sign up for tournaments.

Yeah Okay, all right, so you were the last guy to step backwards so the de facto captain and and So I am by the way, I loved reading on the Tad Cooper site a planet Kubb site by the way The kind of origin story behind Tad Kubler and Your trip to Nationals and all that.

Yeah, totally by chance, which is super cool So I mean, so what’s the what’s the plan for Tad Kubler this year?

I you know kubachucks were a freshman year So we all we’re gonna do is try to go one more round in the bracket What’s the we’re gonna first of all, we need to stop this trend of moving backwards and we went that first year we took fourth and the next year third and then The year after that we Got fifth or tied for fifth, you know somewhere between fifth and eighth It’s not really hard to say tied for fifth because who knows how that would play out but then again same thing last year I Don’t know, you know, there’s so many good teams it’s it’s really amazing how many teams have I Often think of Kubb as this thing where it’s it’s pretty easy to learn and kind of get you know Okay at the game and then there’s this another there’s another big jump that teams take where they kind of start to learn strategy and they learn the drill and They kind of think about their way they’re playing and I feel like so many teams in the last year Year and a half have made that jump up to these teams that really can compete.

Well So, I don’t know it’s tough I mean maybe our big plan this year just not draw knockerheads in our same quarterfinal Yeah, I mean you guys played Yeah, I scored that match at Nationals Knockerheads versus Ted Kuhler and it was that was just a phenomenal match and really was So I mean and when you look at the scoring of all the games, it wasn’t the you know, there were other good matches No, no discredited of the teams, but it was you know, some of the best play In the in the final, you know in the quarterfinals on You know if statistically on par with the play that was going on in the in the final game Yeah, I mean there there’s something about those guys that really bring out The best, you know, I mean you’re playing a team like that And you just really have to step it up on every turn and Kubb being the game that it is If you have an off turn, it’s against a team like that.

It’s just over only takes one, right?

You just so you’re you know, you’re kind of constantly Under the idea that like, okay.

Well if we’re not taking care of business on this round, this is it You know, it’s that that pressure every single round.

So I really starts to mount quite a bit That’s really my biggest concern with doing all this scoring and and having so much access to stats is Knowing four or five six turns ahead of time like oh shit Just we that’s where we lost it right there.

Yeah.

Yeah Yeah, and that is kind of frustrating to you when I look through this scoring you’re like, oh, that’s where there was right there That’s where I knew the term it was over No, I and what’s fun too about playing those guys in the quarterfinals as good as they’re like I wouldn’t want to you know Playing them.

There’s no shame in losing those guys are super good and Those are fun guys to play against - I mean it was it’s the Nationals everyone wants to win that game But you know we were able to kind of joke around a little bit and Just kind of have fun in that game - as much pressure as there was, you know Hey, I have us I have a question.

This is question about Tad Kubler you guys occasionally you conference What do you do for those five or six minutes?

Half hour There’s a good chance about 90% of that is mean Anders just giving Cole a hard time You did it the game that we played you guys in Nationals We totally deserve like you could have just you could have done that forever and milk It took Eric’s one penalty with kub Back there.

I think you guys talked about the weather and like I don’t know where you went last night Like hey guys, where should we go to eat tonight?

Right Work that out.

So I just is this a strategy are you I don’t think I don’t think there’s any that intentionally I think part of what you know Cole and I love to like To the point where we’re just dorks, right?

And We love to talk about it, right?

So like when he was in San Francisco in the Coast Guard and we would talk You know, we’d catch up and then like it was just sort of like how many minutes will go by before we start talking about?

Coop, you know like that’s just it was gonna happen and so I Like to talk strategies before things happen.

And so I think a lot of times if we’re after we’re done giving Cole shit You know, we’d like to talk about okay like this is what we’ve talked about like here’s the Here’s the situation.

We’re in like what turn is it?

What game is it?

What’s the strength of our opponent?

What do we think that they can do or can’t do like or what do we think we can do or we can’t do?

So for example, like a penalty cube where we’re gonna put that down.

I mean, I think it’s fair to run through Okay, like if we move it up, well, maybe if this can’t hit an 8 meter Maybe we do put it at 8 meters, but maybe we feel like okay Can this team even hit 5 meters right now?

Like are they just ice cold?

Are they just not feeling it, you know, or are they like feeling a lot of pressure because it’s a tournament?

So we might talk about that for about 30 seconds.

I don’t know.

I don’t know I don’t know if it’s a tournament so we might talk about that for about 30 seconds and then yeah, just the rest is giving cold crap Well, cool guys.

Do you guys have anything else you want to cover?

I’m good.

This is yeah Thanks a lot guys for having me on.

I appreciate you.

Let me plug the plug a little bit tons of fun